Hi and welcome to the working songwriter, the show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop. I'm your host,

Joe Pug. Each episode here, we host a distinguished guest, and we ask them to go deep on their

inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music. So,

whether you're a grizzled veteran,

ruefully watching your nephew accrue 20 million Spotify streams,

or else a scrappy upstart,

marveling at pictures of your uncle doing drugs

with Dwight Yoakam's road crew in the mid-1990s.

This is your show, because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most, an ironclad

excuse to put off actually writing.

Hey, everybody, it's the second Friday of October 2022, and I thank you for joining us.

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