Hi and welcome to the Working Songwriter.

The show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop, I'm your host Joe Puck.

Each episode here we host a distinguished guest and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration,

on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So whether you're a grizzled veteran, be grudgingly joining TikTok to promote your new

greatest hits album or else a scrappy upstart, be grudgingly filing taxes for the first time

after a few years of under the table bar gigs.

This is your show because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most and ironclad

excuse to put off, actually writing.

Hey everybody, it's the third Friday of October 2022 and I thank you for joining us.

This week's show is brought to you by Banzougal.

Built by musicians and forum musicians, Banzougal is an all in one platform to build a beautiful

website for your music.

I'm old enough to remember when you had to pay somebody called a web developer to get

a website made and it would always be some guy named Howie who drove one of those pristine

Ford F-150s that's never been on a job site a day in its life and is like candy apple

red and who's always trying to sell you loose Paul Mall cigarettes in sandwich baggies and

all Howie would charge you about a thousand bucks for a website that would be obsolete

in six months but it's the future now.

Thank you guys, that's not how it works anymore, we're allowed to have nice things now.

One of those nice things is Banzougal.

Banzougal powers the websites of tens of thousands of musicians around the world from weekend

...