Hi and welcome to the Working Songwriter.

The show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop, I'm your host, Joe Pug.

Each episode here we host a distinguished guest and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration

on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran,

ruefully watching your nephew accrue 20 million Spotify streams or else a scrappy upstart,

marveling at pictures of your uncle doing drugs with Dwight Yochum's road crew in the mid 1990s.

This is your show, because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most,

an ironclad excuse to put off, actually writing.

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