Jenny Han insists on hope
Wild Card with Rachel Martin
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4.7 • 990 Ratings
🗓️ 3 July 2025
⏱️ 31 minutes
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| 0:16.3 | What emotion do you understand better than all the others? |
| 0:19.7 | I would say embarrassment. |
| 0:22.0 | I think I am very shameforward. |
| 0:28.2 | And I think, to me, it's the only emotion that you can feel as acutely right now as you did in the moment. |
| 0:37.5 | I'm Rachel Martin, and this is Wildcard, the show where cards control the conversation. |
| 0:44.5 | Each week, my guest answers questions about their life, questions pulled from a deck of cards. |
| 0:50.7 | They're allowed to skip one question and to flip one back on me. My guest this week is writer and |
| 0:56.6 | showrunner Jenny Hahn. I really must insist on hope. And I do think that that is for me |
| 1:04.3 | the only real difference between writing stories for a young audience and for adults is a hopeful ending. |
| 1:14.1 | As of this summer, I am officially the parent of a teenager. And I am ready for all the beauty |
| 1:19.8 | and emotional messiness that this experience will bring because we all know that this stage of life |
| 1:25.3 | is, I don't know, I guess I'll use the word intense. |
| 1:28.5 | It is so intense. |
| 1:30.5 | The rampant insecurity about our bodies or our social status or our parents' expectations, I remember all of that. |
| 1:38.0 | And personally, I was just desperate to get on the other side of adolescence. |
| 1:43.1 | Jenny Hahn also struggled with parts of her teenage years, |
| 1:46.4 | but instead of locking it all away in some mental box and moving on with her life, Jenny made it |
| 1:52.8 | her life. Her books are a modern take on the timeless challenges of growing up. And yes, that includes |
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