Jennifer Welch of 'I’ve Had It' Blasts Both MAGA & Centrist Dems

On with Kara Swisher

New York Magazine

Society & Culture

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🗓️ 24 November 2025

⏱️ 93 minutes

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In the year since President Trump won re-election — thanks in part to capitalizing on sitdowns on friendly podcasts — Democrats have been looking for their own answer to the so-called “manosphere.” One of the top contenders has emerged from an unlikely place: bright red Oklahoma. That’s where Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan started their hit podcast, “I’ve Had It.” They’ve interviewed some of the biggest names on the left side of the political spectrum, like former President Obama, New York Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani, and Vermont Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders. Welch in particular has gone viral for testy exchanges with former Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel and New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker. Kara and Jennifer talk about what it's like to be a liberal atheist in the Bible Belt, why Jennifer finds centrist Democrats so frustrating, and why she’s skeptical about Georgia Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene’s recent break with Trump. They also talk about what Democrats get wrong about red states, and what she thinks the party needs to do to appeal to voters outside the coasts and big cities. Please note: The original interview for this episode was taped Friday morning, before Greene announced her decision to resign from Congress and Mamdani met with Trump. We taped a second interview on Saturday morning to get Jennifer’s reaction to the news. Questions? Comments? Email us at on@voxmedia.com or find us on YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Threads, and Bluesky @onwithkaraswisher. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	I really enjoyed your book. I read it last night. Oh, good. Is it your running for office book?
0:05.0	No, I would never. I'd rather earn my money on my back, Kara.
0:25.4	Hi, everyone, from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. This is on with Keros Swisher, and I'm Keros Swisher. If the 2024 presidential election was the year podcast
0:30.9	dominated legacy media, then it's easy to see why President Trump came out ahead. While
0:35.9	Vice President Kamala Harris primarily sought out CNN
0:39.0	town halls and sit-downs with the view, Trump was courting the Manosphere in interviews with
0:44.2	Joe Rogan and Theo Vaughn. Since Harris's defeat, Democrats have been searching for their own
0:48.9	Rogans and Vaughans, and one of the top contenders has emerged from an unlikely place,
0:53.6	Wright-red Oklahoma. I'm talking an unlikely place, Right Red, Oklahoma.
0:55.2	I'm talking about the podcast, I've had it.
0:58.1	It's co-hosted by Jennifer Welch and Angie Sullivan,
1:00.8	two white women in their 50s from the suburbs of Oklahoma City.
1:04.4	They've interviewed the biggest names in Democratic politics,
1:06.7	like Harris, former President Barack Obama,
1:09.1	New York Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
1:12.2	and New York City mayor-elect Zoran Mamdani. Welch in particular has gone viral for her
1:17.9	combative interviews with New Jersey Democratic Senator Cory Booker and former Chicago mayor,
1:23.0	Rahm Emanuel. Jennifer Welch is my guest today. I'm excited to talk to her because she's just,
1:28.4	she's just really a fresh voice and is a tell it like it is kind of lady, and that's who I am.
1:34.8	I think what really sets her apart is she's very genuine. She doesn't seem calculated. It's the
1:39.6	person she is. I suspect she's the same in person as she is on the podcast, and that works really well,
1:46.1	and people really seem to be enjoying what she and Angie are doing. All right, let's get
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