Hello everyone and welcome to police off the cuff real crime stories.

I'm your host, retired NYPD sergeant Bill Cannon, a 27 year veteran of the NYPD sergeant, Bill Cannon, a 27-year veteran of the NYPD.

You know, this new information on Stefan Cerns, first of course, we have the discovery material,

and then they put out his interview slash interrogation by the police.

And, you know, so many people on YouTube have done things like body language, statement

analysis.

And that's all well and good.

But, you know, something, real detectives don't need that.

Real detectives can decipher truth and falsehoods during the interview.

And that's why they're professionals at doing what they do.

And many of you may listen to his interview slash interrogation and say, oh, he's lying.

He's like, the detectives know he's lying. But guess what? They want to

keep him talking because one of the beauties about being a good interviewer and a good interrogator

is you know certain truths. And when the person who you're interviewing is lying, you know they're lying because you know what the truth is.

And when Stefan Sterns starts lying, and I always tell you guys, TPO, time, place of occurrence.

That's how almost every police report is started at the TPO. And times,

places, and occurrences are the first thing a good interviewer, good interrogator uses to try

to get the truth. And there's many things. Of course, there's body language. There's checking the time and the

place and occurrence. Of course, the time is so very important because when Stern starts referring

to certain times and they're so ridiculously off and the police know certain things

happened at certain times and he's saying the opposite.

So I just want to point that out.

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