Jennifer Senior: Secrets and Lies

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.6 • 8.9K Ratings

🗓️ 11 June 2024

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Pulitzer-Prize winning Jen Senior joins Tim Miller for a free-form conversation about jail-bound, faux martyr Steve Bannon, the debilitating reality of living with long Covid, unearthing a family trauma, and how Americans with differing political persuasions can find their way to back to each other.

show notes:

Jen's story on her Aunt Adele
Jen's "On Grief," originally published as the Pulitzer-winning, "What Bobby McIlvane Left Behind."

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0:00.0	Hey everybody as I mentioned on yesterday's pod I'm in Portugal at my friend's wedding this week and so I pre-taped this interview with Jen Sr.
0:08.0	who I just adore has been nominated for two Pulitzer's 1-1 in the past couple of years. I wanted to talk
0:14.6	about those articles, but also her analysis of our political life right now. She's written
0:19.8	movingly about COVID and long COVID. She wrote about Steve Bannon. She written about conspiracy theories.
0:26.0	We definitely have some deep personal talk at the end about some of her profiles that are a little bit off the news but stick around for the top because she's got some real insights into the authoritarian right and what's happening in our political moment.
0:40.5	Tomorrow Wednesday, AB will be in this chair talking about the end of row with some very special
0:46.5	guests on Thursday. J.V.L. will be in this chair with our old friend Amanda Carpenter
0:51.3	who volunteered to come anytime I'm on vacation so I'm grateful to
0:54.4	Amanda and Protect Democracy will take Friday off and then I'll be back next Monday.
0:59.7	So enjoy this conversation with Jen Senior.
1:02.3	Be nice to AB and JVL and Amanda and I'll see you all next week.
1:06.5	Peace. All right, we are here with Jen Senior, my friend, Staff Rider at the Atlantic,
1:18.8	the winner of the 2022 Pulitzer Prize for feature writing for her piece,
1:23.2	What Bobby McElvane left behind,
1:25.2	which turned into a book on grief.
1:26.9	She's also the author of the book All Joy and No Fun,
1:29.6	The Paradox of Modern Parenthood.
1:31.8	And she was a finalist for the Pulitzer, no big deal, for a
1:34.6	2023 piece about her Aunt Adele, the ones we sent away.
1:39.7	Jen, what's happening?
1:40.7	Thank you for doing this.
1:41.7	You know, I adore you so no problemo. Nothing is happening. Well, actually that's not true. Okay.
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