Welcome to the Bull Work podcast. I am Abbe Stoddard with the Bull Work and I'm fortunate to be sitting in today for Tim Miller who is on a well deserved and is only a vacation of 2024.

I'm so excited to be welcoming Elizabeth Sius

National Religion correspondent for the New York Times

and her co-author Lisa Laird National Political

Correspondent for the New York Times.

They are co-authors of a brand new book, The Fall of Row, The Rise of a New America, and I cannot

recommend this book enough to our audience.

I told Elizabeth, it is absolutely riveting.

It is a page-turner.

It is essential reading for anyone who wants to know,

obviously what happened, but about our new America.

What is happening and will happen without Roe.

It is also an account of how the minority can eclipse a majority.

It's about the intersection of politics and the judiciary and an ascendant Christian movement that people should be aware of.

It is most of all a stunning audit of the rights of women gained and lost in just 50 years.

I'm going to start with something they wrote on page 388

when Roe was decided women could not get a credit card

in their own names.

Could not legally refuse sex to their husbands,

lacked guarantees not to be fired if they became pregnant,

and did not have legal protections against sexual harassment.

There were no female senators and the first female Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor would not be confirmed for another eight years.

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