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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Jennifer Lawless on why you — yes, you — should run for office

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, News, News Commentary, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.511.1K Ratings

🗓️ 31 January 2017

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

There are 500,000 elected positions in the United States. I'll say that again: 500,000. And that's no accident. "Our political system is built on the premise that running for office is something that a broad group of citizens should want to do," writes political scientist Jennifer Lawless.But Lawless's research reveals something scary — something that helps explain the political moment we're in. Participating in politics has begun to repulse the average America. 89 percent of high schoolers says they've already decided they will never run for office. 85 percent doubt elected officials want to help people. 79% don’t think politicians are smart or hardworking. And when good, normal people turn away from politics, the system breaks down.Well, be the change you want to see in the world. Lawless is the director of the Women & Politics Institute at American University. Her recent book, along with co-author Richard Fox, is “Running from Office: Why Young Americans Are Turned Off to Politics." Her work, which details why young people and women are increasingly turned off by a political system that badly needs their participation, has never been more essential.This is an inspiring discussion, or at least I think it is. It's about the steps in political participation that come after Facebook posts and even marches. It's about how involving yourself directly in the daily work of politics is both easier and more meaningful than you might think. It's about the myths that keep people — and particularly keep women — from ever considering running for office. It's about recognizing that politics is much more than the presidency and the Congress, and that the opportunities it offers to make the world you live in a bit better are more numerous than you think.Lawless practices what she preaches. She ran for Congress in Rhode Island, and her story of that race, as well as the best advice she got while running it, should not be missed. I hear from a lot of people who feel powerless right now. But they're not powerless. This podcast is for them. Books:-Why We Lost the ERA by Jane Mansbridge-My Life by Bill Clinton-Hard Choices by Hillary Clinton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The following podcast contains explicit language.

0:15.3

Hello and welcome to another episode of The Ezra Client Show.

0:18.6

This is an episode if you are feeling down, if you are feeling up, if you are feeling engaged

0:24.2

about American politics. If Donald Trump being elected has left you feeling that, hey,

0:28.5

American politics really is great. You can make America great again, even if you come from

0:32.9

humble beginnings as the son of a real estate magnet. Or similarly, if it's made you feel powerless,

0:38.7

look who can get elected in this country, you need to listen and think a little bit about what

0:42.9

Jennifer Lawless has to say. Lawless is a professor at American University. Her work has focused

0:48.2

on political representation of women of young people. She has written a fantastic book along with

0:53.5

Richard Fox called Running from Office, which is all about why young Americans have really

0:58.6

soured on being part of the political process. And I want you to listen to this episode with that in

1:03.8

mind. This is really an episode about why you should run for office. Yes, you, whatever your politics

1:08.2

are, whatever the time commitment you can offer is, it is not as hard as you think. It is more

1:13.0

important than you think. It is necessary for the American experiment to work that good people,

1:18.4

that a large swath of people, that are representative swath of people actually participate in

1:23.3

American politics. And it's important when you say that when you hear the words running for

1:27.8

office, you don't just hear Congress, Senate, presidency that you're thinking about local

1:33.0

positions that you're thinking about school boards, state legislature. A lot of this is a lot more

1:37.2

open to folks than you think. A lot of it can be more meaningful than you think. Jennifer Lawless

1:41.6

is the right person here this from. And I hope you enjoy this episode. As always, a couple requests,

1:46.0

but here's a specific one. We have some jobs open at Vox that I think will be of a lot of interest

1:51.5

to people listening to the show. We have a number of policy, reporter and editor jobs,

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