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Hello and welcome to a special episode of Asura Klein show.

This episode, which is bit out of sequence, as you'll notice, is about what is going on,

not just in the country, but in the world right now.

As the outrage has spread over Donald Trump's executive order on immigrants and on refugees

from the seven majority Muslim countries, and particularly from Syria, where he's banned refugees

indefinitely, one thing that I think has gotten a bit lost is the context in which his order comes.

Well before there was this order, well before he was elected president, the world has been in the

grips of what's really a global refugee crisis. A crisis that is destabilizing the Middle East,

destabilizing much of Europe, and a crisis that if America turns its back on it,

creates very different kinds of threats. It doesn't go away just because we have slammed our doors.

And I think that to understand not just why Trump's order is, and I think it is, cruel,

but also why it is probably unwise. It's pretty important to understand that context in which it

comes. So I'm grateful that David Milliband has agreed to be on the show today. David Milliband

is Britain's former foreign secretaries, a member of parliament, a member of the government's

leadership team, but he is more recently the head of the International Rescue Committee.

The International Rescue Committee was founded in Papalvert Einstein to deal in very large part

on refugee issues. It operates in more than 40 countries and 22 US cities. It resettles refugees,

helps them become self-sufficient. They do amazing work, and they are more experienced and have

farther reach on this issue than virtually any other non-government organization out there.

So he knows the stuff backwards and forwards. And I think in this interview is able to give a

very, very helpful global context, global perspective on it, and also perspective on the specifics

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