Welcome to Nobody Told Me, I'm Laura Owens, and I'm Jan Black.

And on this episode, we'll take a look at some of pop music's biggest female stars and the lessons

their lives and careers offer to their fans. Joining us is best-selling author Jennifer

Cation Armstrong, whose latest book is called Pop Star Goddesses and how to tap into their

energies to invoke your best self. Jennifer, thank you so much for joining us. Thanks for having me.

This is a fantastic book. It's a lot of fun and we're wondering how it came about. Well, I love this

because it's like actually a fun inspiring story. Sometimes you're like, I don't know, I just thought

this thing. But we thought this would sell or whatever.

But really, I love pop stars a lot.

You might be able to tell from the book.

And like I've always, I kind of like wanted to be one when I grew up originally.

I do like to perform.

I just never quite rose to the right level of like dance or singing or

anything to quite get there. But I have always loved them. I've always looked up to them since like

Debbie Gibson times, you know, in my life. And I particularly love Britney Spears and like most people love Beyonce.

And I literally have like a sign above my desk that says what would Beyonce do?

And I do actually look at it sometimes when I'm on business calls and things.

And I really, I take actual.

Yeah, it's channel it.

Right.

Like I do have to kind of think like, okay, just think what she would do

right here and act like her. I have a mug on my desk that says if Britney Spears can get through

...