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Michigan jurors, after 11 hours of deliberations

found Jennifer Crumbly guilty of involuntary manslaughter

for the gun rampage committed by her son Ethan Crumbly who carried out the state's

deadliest school shooting more than two years ago. Ethan was tried and

convicted as an adult but still prosecutors say that Jennifer

crumbly had a duty under Michigan law to prevent her son from harming others

she's accused of making a gun and a gun and ammunition and ammunition accessible at home and

failing to get help for Ethan Crumbly, despite his pleas for help.

Miss Crumbly's husband, James Crumbly, who is 47 years old.

He is going to be tried separately in March, but the headline here, convicted on four counts of involuntary manslaughter.

Bottom left of your screen, Tony Mantalto, he is the father of forever 14 year old Gina Rose Montalto.

She was a victim very sadly at Marjorie Stonman Douglas High School back on Valentine's Day of all days 2018. Tony is the president of Stand with Parkland.

It is the National Association of Families for Safe Schools and

an advocacy group founded by families that had a loved one killed in the Parkland

Florida School Massacre. Then middle top is Ed McGovern, a friend of mine. He's

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