Hey friend, welcome to the mere Christians podcast. I'm Jordan Rayner. How does the gospel influence the work of mere Christians?

Those of us who aren't pastors or religious professionals,

but who work as middle managers,

crossing guards, and marine biologists?

That's the question we explore every week and today I'm posing it to

Jen Wilkin and J.T. English, two of the very best Bible teachers I know, they are not mere mere Christians but they have a lot to say

to help you and I connect the gospel to our work today Jen and JT and I recently sat down

to talk about why everything we do at work is an act of theology, why Christians

should view even mundane work as work that's infused with supernatural meaning and finally we talked about

how Genesis 1 and the cultural mandate of versus 26 through 28 democratizes human

dignity you guys are gonna love this short conversation democratizes human dignity.

You guys are going to love this short conversation with my new friends Jen Wilkin and J.T. Welcome to the Muir Christians podcast. Thanks so much for having us on.

So glad to be here. Thanks Jordan. I'm pumped.

I've been excited for this for a long time, especially as I've gotten into this new book that

you two wrote.

You are a theologian.

And I think a lot of listeners are probably hearing that title, but actually I'm not, I'm a stock analyst, a sous chef.

So Jen, how do you define this word theologian?

Well the word itself is a combination of two words that just mean

words about God and so if you have words about God then you are someone who is

doing theology you are a theologian and so obviously we recognize

that there are people who are professional theologians and writing a book like this talking

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