I am thrilled today's guest. I'm a big fan Jen sake. She of course hosts Inside with Jen Saki Sundays at noon and

Mondays at 8 PM she's the former press secretary under President Biden, Deputy

Press Secretary under President Obama. She's got a brand new book that I'm going to sell,

I'm going to use my skills and sell it right now.

I need all the Donnie Deutsch selling and branding I can take.

I'm going to take it all in.

The book is Say More Lessons from Work, The White House in the world.

It's going to be a major bestseller.

This is a great book, because was basically if you've got to

manage a boss if you've got to communicate to anybody if you've got to take

feedback if you've got to get into an argument with a Trump voter this is going to give you the tools and who better than the person who

was basically communicating on behalf of those powerful people on the

planet to other people how to simplify messages, how to deal with bullies,

how to kind of overcome imposter syndrome,

everything we all have.

This is a must have book.

Jensaki, welcome to the show.

Thank you so much.

That was such a good pitch. No wonder you're so successful what you do. Thank you. I'm going to record and start using that as my book pitch.

No, it really is a great. There's so much news you could use and I'm gonna start right in with the

most interesting I think I can handle anybody communicate anything take

anything the most difficult thing to now is talking politics with somebody

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