This is a head, a podcast about jokes.

What makes a joke a good one?

Obviously, it's that it was picked by the guest or I and played at the start

of an interview, but at least to me there is more to it. Despite the fact that I have interviewed

a variety of types of comedians be it in terms of

age gender identity sexual orientation race religion style of comedy medium of comedy

points of view on comedy if there's any commonality I hope it's in the quality of the jokes.

To the best of my ability and the guest's abilities, we're talking about good jokes on this

show. What do I mean by good? You know, there's plenty ways to answer that but for me it comes down to how much goes into the jokes and I mean that broadly it can be how much work goes into crafting the joke how much thought went into trying to innovate with the joke,

how much insight goes into the social commentary of the joke, how much of your body goes into the physical

performance, and it can be how much of yourself, your life, your pain, you give to the audience.

These jokes can be short, they can be long, they can be stupid, they can be smart,

but no matter what, they are made with care and intention.

This is all to say the joke Jen Kirkman I talk about.

The closer from her fantastic 2017 special Just Keep Living is a good joke.

And as we talk about Jen put a lot of everything

to make a joke about a fairly well-covered subject,

special.

So without further ado, here is that joke,

and then Jen and I discussing it. I know it sounds like I hate men, I really, really don't, I love men, and I kind of look at them the way I look at children, you know,

which is just like, oh my God, like for people who don't know what you're doing, you have so much energy about it, you know?

But the one area that I think is really cool. I do like that people say they're feminists and it's like, you know, white people can say they identify for Black Lives Matter and men can say they're feminists.

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