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The David McWilliams Podcast

David McWilliams

News & Politics

4.6 • 643 Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

On Wednesday, we watched in real time as America’s trade policy devolved into a parody of itself. Trump’s Liberation Day was part Caesar, part Mattress Mick, all empty bluster. A dodgy chalkboard of made-up numbers, a crowd in high-vis, and a president who thinks tariffs are just theatre. You may also have heard that Jeffrey Goldberg, editor of The Atlantic and friend of the pod, was accidentally added to a Signal group chat planning actual U.S. airstrikes. He joins us to talk about what it revealed: a deeply unserious administration where war, trade, and global diplomacy are being handled like a lad’s WhatsApp group. We break down the chaos, the consequences for Ireland and Europe, and why standing up to this kind of performative thuggery might be the only option left.

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1:10.0	It is the day after liberation day.
1:12.9	And if like me, you decided to suspend your real world and listen to Donald Trump last night at 9 o'clock or whatever time it was,
1:23.4	whatever part of the world you're listening to, you will have been treated to a display, John,
1:29.4	which was a combination, I would say,
1:31.2	it was half Julius Caesar, half mattress Mick.
1:34.3	Okay?
1:35.0	It was a word salad.
1:36.4	It was a word salad.
1:37.9	What I loved was eventually when they actually produced
1:40.4	the very high-tech tariffs.
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