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Robert Wright's Nonzero

Jeffrey Epstein, MechaHitler, and Other Ills (Robert Wright & Paul Bloom)

Robert Wright's Nonzero

Nonzero

News & Politics, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.7618 Ratings

🗓️ 23 July 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.nonzero.org

0:28 The full reason for Bob’s absence—revealed 6:41 What’s the real story with Trump and Epstein? 15:02 A peek down the Epstein rabbit hole 31:18 Grok goes full Nazi-pornbot 40:15 The promise and perils of AI companions 47:55 Bob on dealing with cancer in the age of AI 1:10:39 Heading to Overtime

Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Paul Bloom (https://smallpotatoes.paulbloom.net, University of Toronto, The Sweet Spot, Against Empathy). Recorded July 22, 2025.

Twitter: https://twitter.com/NonzeroPods

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero podcast. You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero Podcast.

0:29.5

Hello, Paul Bloom.

0:31.5

Hello, Robert Wright.

0:32.5

Good to have you back.

0:34.0

Good to be back.

0:35.0

Paul, let me introduce us.

0:35.9

I'm Robert Wright, publisher, the 90 News. This is a non-zero podcaster, you're Paul back, Paul. Let me introduce us. I'm Robert Wright, publisher in non-zero news.

0:37.6

This is a non-zero podcaster, Paul Bloom, famous Canadian psychologist.

0:44.3

And also proprietor of the Small Potatoes newsletter.

0:50.0

Very proud.

0:50.6

Very proud of that substact.

0:52.3

Facing little substack that will never die.

0:55.0

No, no.

0:56.0

And not, yeah.

0:59.0

Bob, you and I have not spoken for some weeks,

1:03.0

which is probably a relief to Elon Musk and Donald Trump.

1:07.0

They've got a bit out of the hot seat.

1:09.0

You know, for some relief they see that we're not shitting on them. But sad for bit out of the hot seat you know they have for some relief they see that

1:11.1

we're not we're not shitting on but but but sad for the rest of the world so and there is a story

1:16.2

it's been a tough period for the for the nation and the world i'd say paul because you know it's not

1:20.8

just you i have not taped a podcast of any kind in four weeks four weeks You know when the last time that happened was?

1:30.4

9-11.

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