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Did you ever think you were made?

I feel I'm so close I can taste with the victory.

I know this life meant for me.

Yeah, why would you bet on Goliath when we got bet David? Valutainment, given values

is contagious. This world of entrepreneurs, we get no value to hate us.

How they run, homie, look what I become. I'm the, I'm the one.

I'm Patrick Middleby, Host of Ait hosted by attainment look I've done a lot of different

podcasts I've interviewed a lot of people I've never in my career have been called an

eff an asshole but my guest today,

Lucia's trust god who is a Jefferson descendant called me that at the end of the interview

and I have a feeling when you listen to this

you're going to have some opinions about it and I want to hear your thoughts once you finish listening to this interview.

Lucian Truska, thank you so much for being a guest on Valetainment.

Thanks for having me.

So opening question, very simple, that paper, that article you wrote on New York Times, you

explain your position, you explain where you're at, you explain where you know, why

you think this ought to be taking place, but maybe for the audience that hasn't written the article, why do you think this ought to be taking place. But maybe for the audience that hasn't written the article,

why do you think Jefferson's Memorial must be taken down

and replaced by Harriet Tubman?

Well, I didn't say it must be taken down.

I made a suggestion that that sort of that it might be time that we considered taking down Jefferson's memorial because of everything that's going on in the

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