Welcome to the politics guys, a place for bipartisan, rational, and civil debate on American politics and policy.

I'm Michael Bernowski, a political scientist at Northern Kentucky University. With me today is my regular co-host, Cleveland area attorney and Republican fact totem Jay Carson.

All right. Hey, Meg. Jay, so, you know, we went on so long for our Saturday show that it was all about elections. I kind of thought that

might happen. And we didn't have the opportunity to talk about, I think, two pretty important

stories that were in an already packed week. And that is, first off, President Trump firing Jeff

Sessions as an attorney general, and secondly, the president's

proclamation in which he denied us, which we'll essentially deny asylum to certain,

certain folks. And so it seemed to me that would make a lot of sense for us to take our Wednesday

show and talk about those two issues. So if you're ready, we can, yeah, we can jump right in.

So let's start with the Sessions thing. I mean, obviously President Trump didn't waste any time in

getting rid of Jeff Sessions. And, you know, he's been at odds with his now former Attorney General

from the very day that Jeff Sessions,

I would say honorably and rightly, recused himself from supervising the Mueller investigation.

And really, in every single other way, Jeff Sessions has been an absolute dream of an attorney

general, at least if you're a, you know, a hardcore law and

order conservative.

I like them.

Yeah, he was, I mean, he was particularly a very enthusiastic supporter of Donald Trump's strong

stance against undocumented immigrants.

And that's one of the few policies where Donald Trump seems to actually

really care and have, you know, it's not just a convenience, but something he really believes. And

Jeff Sessions was right there along with it, right? So now with Sessions gone, oversight of the

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