Hey guys and welcome to episode 33 of the OCD stories.com

podcast. In this episode I interview Jeff Bough. Now you may recognize the name

either from his books or I interviewed him along with Charlotte Nicely back in

episode 11 I believe. I had since read one of Jess books which is when in doubt make belief so I wanted to get him on and

touch on some of the topics in the book which we do he also wrote the book

Rewind replay repeat I'm yet to read that one. I look forward to it. So with When

in doubt, make believe, the basis of the book is, you know, what helped him recover, obviously things like ERP and CBT,

but also the more personal development aspects and kind of learning as he says to make belief.

We have so much doubt as I see sufferers,

illogical fear-based doubt,

and he really helps kind of show how you can live kind of a faith-based life and I'm not talking about religion.

I'm talking about just having your faith in something and you know when

OCD doesn't, who wants to rob you of that faith and keep you in doubt, keep you in

what if and we talk a lot about that including the difference between you know sensible doubt

like there's a lion next to me so it's it's obvious that I should be scared here

you know that's an acceptable doubt or there's I think there's a line there or you know have I switched the plug socket off

Did I do that bad thing two years ago.

You know, these are often illogical fear-based doubts, which is what

OCD is and what OCD lives on.

And so we actually talk about how to kind of tell the difference between the two,

and he gives three great examples on how to do this.

So I was so excited to get Jeff on again.

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