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Offline with Jon Favreau

JD Vance and the Post-Liberal Right's War on America

Offline with Jon Favreau

Crooked Media

Society & Culture, News

4.72K Ratings

🗓️ 4 September 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

As the U.S. slides into autocracy, Americans need to be reminded that liberalism can still solve the problems that Trump uses to fear monger. Jerusalem Demsas, founder and editor in chief of “The Argument,” joins Offline to explain what solutions for immigration and the economy would look like, her beef with the post-liberal left, and why she’s staying on Twitter...and maybe you should too. Plus, what she’s seeing on the ground at the National Conservatism Conference in Washington, DC—aka the place JD Vance gets his crazy blood and soil ideas.

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all spaces where you're the minority, right? Like it's not the case that if you were like the ideological

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minority in the 1950s and like the, you know, New York Times editorial page was like still platforming like

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open segregationists or whatever, like that it was an even playing field for activists. Like you know what I mean?

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Like it's not an even playing field anywhere where there are people and eyeballs when you're

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