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start we recorded this episode before the news broke that charlie kirk was shot and killed in

utah i'm recording this part wednesday afternoon so I am still processing the news and am honestly

pretty shaken by it, though I will just say it is horrific and I can't stop thinking about

his two young kids who are around the same age as my two kids.

Like a lot of episodes that we've done lately, this is about authoritarianism in America.

And I think it's fair to say that we might have gone with another topic had we recorded

this after the news, but in some ways I think it's even more relevant for the exact reason

that we need to find our way out of this crisis without descending into more

political violence. We need to find a way to oppose this regime without becoming this regime.

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