we often think about the adults and how they are you know having to hide away or or or

they're fearful but the kids in that school that i was at those kids are afraid when they go

home no one will be there that their parents will have been disappeared.

I mean, I don't know what to say except that, you know, people are traumatized.

So when the podcast started, we asked ourselves, what is the best person?

What makes the best people the best people?

And this week's guest brings that into focus for us. The best people are the truth tellers when the

truth is not convenient and the telling is not easy. They run toward the fight because the alternative

isn't peace. They understand that. It is a privilege and an honor to welcome this week's guest.

Illinois Governor J.B. Piskar, welcome to the Best People podcast. Thanks so much, Nicole.

Great to see you again.

Let's start with what's happening right now because you're in the middle of, we weren't sure that

you would make it today because I know you're in the middle of, we weren't sure that you would make it today because I know

you're in the middle of this. Just bring us up to speed on the legal status of Trump's deployment

of troops to Chicago. Well, I'm smiling just because when you say you might not have seen me today,

it's because the president threatened to jail me. So any day, you might not see me, I suppose, but I ask that you visit me at the Gulag in El Salvador

when that happens.

Deal, deal.

What's happening on the ground right now is that we have ICE and Customs and Border Patrol

who are literally stopping people who are brown and asking them for their papers to prove that

the U.S. citizens or that they have a legal right to be in the country.

So we're seeing literally that is the only criteria that's being used often.

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