Hey everyone. I'm Jonathan Cape Heart and welcome to Cape Up.

Winton Marsalis is an American icon, a jazz master who is as fluent in music as he is in discussing

matters of race. In our continuing focus on Black History Month, we're revisiting our conversation with Marsalis about a new composition inspired by civil rights icon

Fannie Lou Hamer. Hear him talk about that and his very strong views on rap music

right now. it's

a very, very much for being on the podcast.

It's such a pleasure, you know,

I've been a fan of yours for a long time,

and I'm honored to be here.

Well, okay, so everyone knows that you're a jazz man.

Is it fair to call you a race man in the classic sense?

Yes, fair.

Define it.

I think it's a person who has pride in whatever their subculture or subgroup is,

in this case, black American.

It doesn't mean that you are against other people but

you're conscious of the history of your subculture and that you are you embrace

it and you you believe in it you don't mind speaking on it you know and the

traditional sense means you are not ashamed and that you are conscious of it and of

what the struggle has been and I'm like that I've always talked about racial issues and being critical on both sides

and been for real about it.

Help bringing the hood and proud of it.

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