The Bird Show.

Time to get buzzed on the hot goss from Hollywood with Abby.

It's the bird show's entertainment bus.

We're going to have a content warning for this break because we are going to be talking about Jay-Z's former accuser.

So it's going to involve discussion surrounding sexual assault.

But before we get into that, I know all you true crime fans have been very invested in this Gene Hackman story. And there is a

famous forensic pathologist that isn't involved in the case, but he is giving his predictions as to

what he thinks he happened in Gene Hackman and his wife's passing. But again, he has nothing to do

with the investigation. Nothing big, nothing to do

with the case. He is just giving his opinion. So if you remember the details, Gene Hackman was found

in his kitchen. They had allegedly been there for about nine days before they were discovered.

His wife was in the bathroom surrounded by pills next to a space heater and their dog also passed because it was

stuck in the crate and of course it was about two weeks before they were even discovered um two other

dogs were found on the site of their home totally fine so a lot of um reports have come out

and saying they're ruling out carbon monoxide but But right now, this guy named Dr. Michael

Baden, who is a forensic pathologist, is making his predictions as to what he thinks may have

happened based off of the evidence that we know so far about Gene Hackman. Because I know at the gate,

everybody was like, had to be carbon monoxide. just makes the most sense like you found two people

in completely two separate parts of the house both on the floor passed out you've got to assume it's got

to have something to do with carbon monoxide but it wasn't but it wasn't so given the evidence this

doctor dr michael baden is saying that the evidence they got from Gene's pacemaker says that he may have

suffered a cardiac arrest and then collapsed. So then he's saying, well, Betsy was found in the

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