What's going on, everyone.

I have got my, I cannot say long time friend, but definitely new and super cool friend, back on the podcast. I guess this is your second time on here. And the first one went way better than I could have hoped for, but that's Jay, Jay Valaton. And I think I'm pronouncing that correct. I can't remember some first go round. You're good, man. It's close enough. Is it Val or Val or Ball? It's Valaton. Valeton. Yeah, that's close enough is it bal or ball it's valeton ballettin balleton yeah that's close uh so

just just to kind of get everybody caught up if you don't mind tell everybody a little bit about

what you've got going on and in uh you know maybe a little bit too like what we talked about the

first go around and you know maybe what we'll cover today and you know we can kind of

kick it off from there cool yeah um it's awesome to be back on here and i was yeah it's pretty

shocked at the response that i got on my end as well just from from being on the podcast and um so

i've been a pastor and a counselor actually for 20 years now.

And my main job is I oversee a whole counseling department,

our transformation center here, as well as I have a men's ministry and movement.

So I do a lot with men.

And yeah, I've spent my whole entire life

helping people get well, you know,

work through pain, heal their marriages,

learn how to parent, learn how to be better husbands.

And it's just, yeah, it's something that I love to do.

I've done it for a long time and it's been awesome.

Um, so yeah, last time we talked a lot about men and why men are where the way

that they are.

Uh, so many men are struggling today in, in society and a lot of that's because of fatherlessness.

You know, we live in the most fatherless generation that's ever been alive where our dads

aren't at home, not because they're at war, just because they don't want to be at home.

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