Hi everybody welcome to shift a podcast about mobility. I am Pete Bigelow, your host and reporter

at the Automotive News.

And I'm Leslie Allen, editor of Shift the magazine.

And we are back now from a little Thanksgiving break. Leslie, I understand you were on the road for a good chunk of the time off.

I was on the road, Pete. I went from my husband and I should say we drove from Detroit area to St. Louis and back and that was interesting.

It was about a nine hour drive each way.

Very pleasant drive, especially going up there because we

traveled on Thanksgiving Day. There's a whole story behind that but we actually did

travel on Thanksgiving Day itself and kind of nice to get out there every now and then and just experience a road trip and you know where you're totally in control I didn't have an autonomous vehicle although I did have something that was about a level one.

I think it was a vehicle that had the Lane Keeping Assist technology and I believe it

also had automatic emergency breaking but thank God I didn't have to use that particular technology.

So we'll just have to leave that a mystery.

All right. Good. I'm glad you had a good trip.

I stayed closer to home and during my time off I was walking around the University of Michigan campus.

And it dawned on me a lot of consumers will have their first experience and a shuttle like the one that's running there.

There's so many of these startups that have shuttles that go at 25 miles an hour or less on closed

campuses like colleges or hospitals.

And I think if I remember correctly, one of your first experiences in a AV was in a self-driving

shuttle like that.

Yes it was.

It was an obvious shuttle and I believe the Navious shuttles are available on that campus

where you're speaking of.

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