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Now, today I'm joined by former Washington head coach Jay Gruden.

We get into the whole Kirk Cousin situation.

He also was there when they drafted Terry McLaren.

When did he know McClellan would be really good?

What does he think of his

development as a receiver? Where does he stack up among the best receivers? We also talk about

John Allen and Durant Payne, who he was also here as a coach. And what he regrets about how they

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