Welcome to the Tom Bernard family podcast with Andy Bram Bernard and Kristen Bert.

No, you're you're too loud Andy or you're working it too close again.

Okay.

Just kind of breaking up a little bit.

It's not a big deal like I said.

We're just settling in.

Everything is good.

It all works out in the end.

Yeah, Catherine's been gone for a couple hours.

She had a meeting this morning and all the rest of it.

And so I just, basically I've been sitting around watching old episodes of the Johnny Carson

show and, God, what else was I watching? Really good though. Very entertaining. Do you think, Kristen, as a professional in your business,

do you think any of these people ever stood up to Johnny Carson? Are any of many

were near as good as Johnny Carson was?

I mean, in late night, no one as good as Johnny Carson.

And that was also a moment, though, too, because we had so few networks at the time when he was primarily on the air.

He got out at the right time, if you really think about it.

I believe it was 1993 was when he went off the air.

I think so.

Oh.

And if you think about that,

it was before the massive explosion of even cable,

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