There are countless movies made in concert and in consultation with the CIA for many decades.

There's a lot of different levels to this.

You know, you can look at, for example, Ian Fleming himself, the character of Bond was used as a Cold War symbol and as a form of Cold War propaganda.

And so when Fleming was writing his stories, he was basing a lot of the Bond novels on real operations that he had been involved in, like Operation, a Golden Eye, which was an anti-Franco, anti-fascist operation. You have Operation MinceMe, which he was involved in, which they've made films based on that. So YouTube and X, it is at Jay Dyer and Caleb. I don't know if you're going to throw all three books up there or just the most recent one.

I don't know how Jay has time to do comedy. He's been writing so many damn books and doing so much work in his own educational training.

Jay, welcome to the program.

Thank you, Dr. Drew. Glad to be here with you.

I seriously, I don't know how you have time for comedy with all the writing and all the training you've been doing.

But I'm glad you're here doing all of it. Thank you.

Yeah, well, you know, that was not something that I really thought I would end up doing.

But I think the way that media works now, you kind of do your own thing,

and then the more of your personality that comes forth,

you just kind of roll with it.

And so I ended up kind of falling in line with a lot of the comedian podcasts

and doing shows with them and enjoying it quite a bit.

And so ended up writing for Sam Hyde the last year for his show.

So it's been a roller coaster ride it's a lot of fun

but also like doing you know the educational stuff on the other hand as well sam is another

bright guy and uh that is not light lifting writing for sam i assume but let's talk about

sam is a really smart guy let's talk about, Sam was a really smart guy. Let's talk about Hollywood and the

concerns and observations you have. As somebody trained in certain kinds of psychology,

so how people are manipulative, let's talk about that first. Are you worried about as I am, I'll turn over my cards, the behavior of crowds.

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