Good question. Great question. Great question. Again, that is a great question. That's another hard question.

Mr. Jay Dyer, thank you for coming. Thank you, Apala. I would love to touch two topics today on the show. The first one is, I know that you did a lot of videos about it and posts, but the way I do podcast is I don't watch any podcast prior to meeting and guests so I could get this natural reaction. Although we're almost in Hollywood, but I'm not that kind of an actor. So I don't want to act like, oh, wow, I'm surprised, right? Yeah. Fake soy face. Thumbnail, soy face. Right, right, right. Right. Clickbait.

So what would you need would be the top three movies that have the most symbolism?

Ooh.

Good question.

Obviously, symbolism is in a lot of films because most screenwriters most most

movie makers are heavy with with the use of symbolism in some way because it's just

it's essential to a story but all the top of my head I would say most Kubrick films

Stanley Kubrick's films are are very packed with symbolism.

I've gotten to know his daughter, Vivian, quite a bit.

We've talked quite a bit about his process of filmmaking and how he thought about things.

Very detail-oriented guy, very interested in putting all of that, meaning messaging into his films.

So I'd say number one would

probably be Kubrick. Um, in my first book, I covered, uh, David Lynch quite a bit. He comes to mind.

His, uh, he's very influenced by Tibetan Buddhism, uh, by Zen Buddhism, by, um, Transcendal

Meditation. Uh, so a lot of those religious themes are heavy in his TV shows and his movies.

And then maybe somebody like Darren Aronovsky, who is a, he's openly into Kabbala.

So he puts a lot of Jewish Kabbalistic themes in his film.

So just on top of my head.

Is he?

I would suppose that he's an atheist.

I want to say atheist or agnostic.

...