So anyway, Bob has his channel and he has Soco Films. I've got the Soco Films link below.

Bob, tell us about you first. Tell us what you're the context of our chat today, your

background, what you're comfortable talking about and how you got into Speaker's Corners,

debates and anything else you want to tell us about you? Okay.

I became a Christian because of a Muslim who he tried to convert me to Islam when I was at school.

He was a big fan of Ahmadididat and he just assumed that everyone who was white and English was a Christian.

And so he tried to, you know, use all of these kinds of arguments on me.

And I came from a working class background and my family, much like lots of English working class, had this kind of notion that they were Church of England.

You know, they were Christian because at baptisms, they would baptize their children at weddings, they would go to church and at funerals.

They would get a priest to come and say some nice words before sticking people in the ground.

Without any real faith or without any real understanding of what it means to be a disciple of our Lord Jesus Christ.

And so when my Muslim friend tried to attack the Christian faith, I thought he was attacking something English.

So I let to its

defense in ignorance. Just to give you a level of my starting point in one of these

discussions that I remember because of how embarrassing it was, he said, he said, let's test

how much you know. And he asked me, you know, what's the first book of the Bible? I didn't know and someone said Genesis and then he asked me you know what's the first book of the bible I

didn't know and someone said Genesis and then he said well what's the second book of the Bible

I didn't know and someone said Genesis 2 and I just said yes Genesis 2 so that just tells you

how little I actually knew is that not is that not correct

yeah me yeah, so I started looking into it.

I started learning about all of these apologetics and polemics, and then I remember

through a Christian church, a summer mission that I did in London.

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