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software radio. Special operations. You're listening to Software Radio, Special Operations Military News, and Straight Talk

with the guys in the community. Hello again everyone welcome back to soft rip radio. I'm your host today Steve

ballastere. We have a great guest on the line with us today. We're going to be

talking very shortly to Jay Dobbins and if you the name doesn't ring a bell when I tell you

his story it will ring a bell Jay is a retired special agent with the alcohol tobacco and firearms ATF.

He's a he's a decorated veteran I believe 27 years with the Bureau over there and he went undercover for a time investigating the Hell's Angels Motorcycle Club and the West Coast, mainly in the state of Arizona.

And he ended up writing a book that was a New York Times bestseller about that. But Jay isn't just that. He's a very very person. He grew up in India, well he was born in Indiana, grew up in Tucson, Arizona, was a all-pack 10 wide receiver for Arizona.

He played in the Canadian Football League in the USFL before becoming a law enforcement agent.

And then after that, obviously we're going to get into it.

But before we go any further, I want to welcome them to our software up radio

podcast. Jake, thanks for taking the time today. We really appreciate it.

Steve, thanks for having me on your show and hello to your audience.

Yeah, well, we all wanted to hear your story here today.

Yeah, so, you know, growing up in Tucson coming from Indiana, that must have been quite a change.

It was, you know, when I was a kid.

My life started in Northwest Indiana just outside Chicago.

You know, I grew up in a blue collar family.

My dad was a carpenter.

My mom was a house cleaner.

They moved us to Arizona looking for work.

And so Tucson is and continues to be where I call home.

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