Jay Dicharry- If You are Serious About Your Running, Time to Get in the Weight Room
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🗓️ 8 February 2017
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Summary
Jay Dicharry may or may not have taken Gretchen Rubin's Four Tendencies quiz, but it's safe to say that he's probably a Questioner. Jay is not afraid to question beliefs that many of us have blindly accepted for years and study if, in fact, there is actually any truth in them or if there are better ways to train to avoid injuries. He has a passion for this 'Pre-Habbing' which goes back to his injury-prone youth.
Jay is a renowned expert in biomechanics and physical therapy and is also the author of Anatomy for Runners. In this episode, he challenges us to reevaluate parts of our accepted, conventional training and running wisdom.
He does a great job of deconstructing clinically complex concepts into easily understandable ideas and examples. He breaks down things like Strength Training versus Power Training and the differences between joint limitation or blockage, shortened tissues, stiffness / sticky tissues, and dynamic mobility.
Our conversation covered a lot of ground and included many additional resources as noted by the links below. This may very well be an episode that you will want to listen to multiple times to explore these and evaluate what changes you may want to integrate into your own personal program.
Here are some of the topics we'll discuss today:
- How biomechanic training can help Pre-Hab or prevent injuries.
- Biomechanics fact vs. fiction and the ongoing critical evaluation of prior assumptions.
- How to leverage strength training to improve your running while reducing your volume.
- How to evaluate a potential strength coach or options if you don't have access to one.
- Risk / Reward balance of using different types of shoes for training / racing.
- Jay's Mobility / soft-tissue work philosophy.
- The difference between 'stretching' and 'dynamic mobility' and which you should do before a run.
Questions Jay is asked:
3:50 When did you determine that biomechanics was your passion?
6:37 Is there still a lot of misinformation portrayed within the PT / sporting world?
8:07 Do you still get frustrated when people repeat 'facts' they haven't verified or is it getting better with more readily available information?
10:30 What is it that drives you to keep exploring?
12:33 Is there anything surprising that you've learned about Pre-Hab along the way?
14:42 Who else can people reference for up-to-date information
16:17 Is the UVA Running Medicine Conference open to the public?
17:14 (Listener Question) If you could go back and rewrite Anatomy For Runners, is there anything you would change?
18:58 Is there another book in the works?
19:25 What is your philosophy on strength training and plyometrics?
20:52 Exactly what type of training are you referring to by 'Strength Training'?
27:07 When selecting a Strength Coach, how important is it that they have a running background?
29:45 What can you tell us about the Saucony Stride Lab for those who may not have access to a running lab?
34:20 Why did you choose to work with Saucony?
35:18 Were you part of the design team for the Saucony Freedoms?
35:41 (Listener Question) If you're running in a heavier / bulkier shoe, is there an injury risk to doing the workouts or races in a lighter shoe if you train in the heavier shoe?
39:34 Can we trust our GPS / wearable tech with our biomechanics or are they inaccurate?
40:29 When it comes to imbalances or weaknesses, is it an issue if one part, or side, of your body is stronger than the other?
43:25 If you do all the form trainings we discussed, you're prolonging the amount of time your body is able to hold good form when running?
44:21 Should people who sit all day at work and run after work stretch between working and running?
49:25 How often do you recommend that runners should perform foam rolling / mobility / soft-tissue work? Every Day?
55:00 The Final Kick Round
Quotes by Jay:
"There's still the folks out there saying 'Running is going to kill you and you need to stop'."
"I don't like being the person paving the way; I like being the person helping people."
" 'What's the ONE thing to do?" and the reality is that life isn't that simple, right? If it was, then nobody would have problems."
"There is very good research out there to show that running does NOT make you strong. Running efficiency DOES improve when you improve the way that you carry yourself."
"At the end of the day, the runners who are serious find a way to get in the weight room. The runners I work with, the people I've introduced to this, I don't know any of them who have STOPPED doing this at all even from a novice up to an elite level."
"The goal is to build a running-specific plan to RUN better, not just to lift more weight in the gym."
"If it's not improving running economy and making your body more robust in terms of injury reduction, then you shouldn't be doing it."
"If you're a soccer player and you're more accurate in shooting goal with your right foot, that's fine, right? But, when you run both legs have to show up."
"I'm not looking to train a muscle; I'm looking to train a movement."
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Mentioned in this podcast:
Run To The Top podcast with Max Prokopy
The American Academy of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation
Christopher M. Powers, PhD, PT, FACSM, FAPTA
Irene Davis, PhD, PT, FAPTA, FACSM, FASB
2017 UVA Running Medicine Conference
Jack Daniels's Run Smart Project
Run To The Top podcast with Dr. Santos
Run To The Top podcast with Drew Watts
Saucony Stride Lab app for iOS
Steve Magness Amazon Author Page
Runner's World Article: How to Use a Lacrosse Ball for Recovery
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| 0:00.0 | On today's round to the top podcast. We do all this research work right and the reality is that you spend all this time and effort doing the study and you know the media wants to digest things down to one simple |
| 0:14.0 | phrase like everyone should land their forefoot or everybody's land their heel or |
| 0:18.2 | whatever and he cracks you up like there's a right way to run landing on your |
| 0:21.8 | forefoot the wrong way to run landing on your forefoot it's like it's just there's a right way to run landing on your forefoot the wrong way to |
| 0:22.9 | run landing on your forefoot it's like it just there's all these old keys that go |
| 0:26.2 | behind it which are a deeper level and I find that a lot of times I'm able to |
| 0:31.2 | communicate really well people because we're able to have conversations like this but one of the problems is that the media likes to take our comments from a study or from an exercise and just go down to one simple nugget of information that may make a headline, but the substance in there gets lost. |
| 0:46.0 | Welcome to the Run to the Top Podcast from Runners Connect, where it's all about learning from the best and most inspiring minds in the sport. |
| 0:55.0 | Together, we can train a smarter, healthier, and faster running community. |
| 1:02.0 | Now here's your host. and faster running community. |
| 1:05.0 | Now here's your host, Tina Muir. |
| 1:07.0 | Hello, this is Tina Muir. |
| 1:09.0 | Thank you so much for being here with me today for the latest episode |
| 1:12.0 | the Run to the Top podcast brought to you by runners connect. |
| 1:16.0 | So last week we heard from Hannah Smith who shared an amazing story of being told |
| 1:22.0 | how she wouldn't make it to Christmas. She went |
| 1:25.3 | through two rounds of chemotherapy and a surgery in which time she lost two-thirds of |
| 1:30.8 | her stomach, but she still determined to make the most of her life and is running and racing for charity |
| 1:36.5 | and actually since her life is better, it was amazing interview. |
| 1:40.3 | So today we're going to talk to one of the world experts of our time. I'm so excited for this one and most of you probably have heard of Jay to Sherry, but if you haven't you probably should take some time to look him up. |
| 1:53.5 | So Jay has way too many accolades to his name to mention, but just trust me when I say he has a lot. |
| 2:00.0 | And he's changed the running world for the better in just so many ways. |
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