Jaw Jaw: China is a Funny Sort of Revisionist Power — A Conversation with Dean Cheng

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🗓️ 13 November 2018

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

What is the future of U.S.-Chinese relations? Will a rising China seek to overturn the U.S.-led international order? What is China doing inside the first island chain? In cyberspace? Orbital space? Is China more like Imperial Germany or is it more like France in the late 19th century? Dean Cheng and Brad Carson explore these questions and many more in the inaugural episode of "Jaw-Jaw," the newest addition to the War on the Rocks family of podcasts. Dean even recommends some of his favorite books on China – which will be a regular "Jaw-Jaw" feature. You can read the entire transcript of this episode at War on the Rocks. And, more importantly, you can subscribe to the "Jaw-Jaw" feed right here!

Biographies

Dean Cheng is Senior Research Fellow, Asian Studies Center, Davis Institute for National Security and Foreign Policy, at the Heritage Foundation. He specializes in China's military and foreign policy, in particular China's relationship with its Asian neighbors and with the United States. His most recent book is Cyber Dragon: Inside China's Information Warfare and Cyber Operations (2016). Cheng is a frequent media commentator on China-related issues.

Brad Carson is a professor at the University of Virginia, where he teaches in the Batten School of Leadership and Public Policy. He served in the U.S. House of Representatives from 2001-2005 and was Undersecretary of the Army and acting Undersecretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness in the Obama Administration. He welcomes comments at brad.carson@warontherocks.com.

Links

Richard E. Nisbett, The Geography of Thought: How Asians and Westerners Think Differently…and Why (Free Press, 2004).
Alfred Wilhelm, The Chinese at the Negotiating Table: Style & Characteristics (Diane Publishing Co., 1994).
David Finkelstein and James Mulvenon (Eds), China's Revolution in Doctrinal Affairs: Emerging Trends in the Operational Art of the Chinese People's Liberation Army (Center for Naval Analyses, 2005)

Transcript

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0:00.0	My name is Ryan Evans. I'm the editor-in-chief of Warren the Rocks.
0:07.0	My name's Ryan Evans. I'm the editor-in-chief of War on the Rocks. I'd like to introduce the
0:14.4	War on the Rocks community to another brand new podcast series called J-A-J-J-A-W. You can subscribe to it for free on your podcast app of choice.
0:24.0	JAW is an interview show hosted by Brad Carson.
0:27.0	The show will roll out in seasons of about 12 to 15 episodes.
0:30.0	In each season he will focus on a big topic as the season's theme and in each episode he'll interview some of the world's greatest experts on that topic.
0:38.0	In the first season, Jaja is tackling China and. Chinese relations in particular.
0:44.0	Before we get started in episode one, let me tell you a bit about our host, Brad Carson.
0:48.0	You might know Brad from lots of different things.
0:50.0	He has built a distinguished career in public service, law, and education.
0:54.0	He was the acting under secretary of defense for personnel and readiness at the Department of Defense,
0:58.0	and in that capacity he was the driving force behind the ambitious military reforms known as the force of the future.
1:04.4	Before that he served as the Undersecretary of the U.S. Army and his General Counsel of the
1:07.6	U.S. Army before that.
1:09.3	He also served as a two-term member of the House of Representatives from Nebraska.
1:13.3	He's done a lot more and Brad is still up to some very exciting stuff that you'll hear
1:16.4	about but I don't want to stand in your way any longer.
1:19.1	Here is episode one of Jaja.
1:20.8	Don't forget to subscribe and share it with your friends.
1:25.0	Winston Churchill is reputed to have said it's better to Jaja than to War War.
1:31.0	I'm Brad Carson, host of the new podcast
1:34.8	here at War on the Rocks called Jaja.
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