Hello everyone, I'm Gilbert Cruz and this is the Book Review Podcast, where we're continuing

to highlight great conversation from our decade plus archive.

We're planning a new iteration of this show, and as a result, we're taking a beat to figure

out what that might sound like.

Until then, we hope you enjoy these trips down memory lane.

This week, we look to a pair of conversations with New York Times journalists who both wrote

fantastic nonfiction books over the past few years.

First, we have Jason Zineman, the Times' longtime comedy columnist and critic.

In 2017, he spoke with the podcast about his book Letterman, The Last Giant of Late Night.

Our review described it as, quote, a book that does impressive triple duty as an acute portrait

of Stardom, an insightful chronicle of three rembunctious decades of pop culture evolution,

and a very brainy fans' notes.

Jason, thanks for being here.

Great to be here.

Thanks for having me.

So, I'm going to make a confession right at the beginning.

So, everyone knows where I stand, which is that I have never seen David Letterman as

that terrible thing to confess, is that a crime in your eyes?

Not at all.

Not at all.

Well, hopefully, I will represent those among the listeners here who have also not seen

Letterman, and we'll ask all the dumb questions that people who don't know why there's an entire

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