Hello, podcast lovers. You are going to love today's. I talk to Jason Isaacs, and Jason is a giving guest. He gives good guest. He is a repository of stories, and he loves telling them. He also raises a lot of interesting questions that made me think.

Here's what I'm thinking now. Shut up, Rob. Let them listen.

Bryden and one of my favorites. And I mean that, Jason Isaacs.

Today, we are in the presence of what I'm going to call a proper actor, someone who has given himself.

I'm looking, everybody's always confused when they see me looking over there. Yes, I didn't realize it was a television show. I'm a big podcaster. I listen to you. I love the sound of your voice. I never watch. I can't help my old television habits. No, look at you. You're drawing to the camera. I'm wanting to look at that camera. As the host, I would have thought you would draw me in, relax me, but no, you're staring off.

Not yet.

I've worked with those actors who won't look at you. Can I advertise Kelly Clarkson with my drink there? God knows she needs. She gave me this cup last week. So you were on Kelly Clarkson. Much like you, she has a talk show, but she can sing and she likes to sing. But what I was going to say was Michael Cain did an acting video when you and I were baby actors.

Of course.

And he gave all kinds of ridiculous instructions, like, for instance, don't blink, but also look. If there's a camera's there close up, look at someone's right eye, or even look at their ear. And you always know someone's watching because you're doing a close-up close up with someone and bloody looking at your ear. I got a couple of Michael Kane's stories. One at a party, Matt Lucas had a party years ago. Yeah, I was busy. That's right. And he was there. Michael Kane was there. Now, I hadn't met him at this stage. I've since met him because Steve and I do him in the trip. So we did a thing with him once at the Albert Hall, you know, la la, la.

And, I hadn't met him at this stage. I've since met him because Steve and I do him in the trip.

So we did a thing with him once at the Albert Hall, you know, la-la-la-la.

Anyway, but he was at this party. I thought, wow, this was exciting. You know, he's a, I mean, he's a... Yeah, no, he's a legend. He's a... And a brilliant actor. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. and he was sat at a clawback son he was sat at a table with Leslie Brickus

you know, the great

songwriter who we've now lost. And I would walk past on my way to say to the kitchen or someone,

I'd want to listen in imagining glamorous stories of the cult desir.

Yes, what I was hoping for.

Yeah, I was hoping to hear, and then Roger said to me, why don't we?

But when I swear to God, I listened in, and what he was saying was,

you put them out on a Thursday night, they've still not collected them on a Saturday morning.

He was mourning about the recycling.

That makes sense.

Most of the legends I've ever met have been incredibly disappointing.

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