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Learn more at Vonage.com. Hi guys welcome back to skin care anarchy this is your host Echta and today I have with me the global beauty director for the iconic brand,

Laura Mercier, Jason Hoffman.

Jason, thank you so much for coming onto the show.

I'm so excited you're here with us.

Thank you so much, Ekda.

I'm really happy to be here and talk with you today.

Awesome. I would love it if you could start us off by telling us about like your career and

like how you got started in the beauty industry, you know, just the whole, um, the real career history that led you here.

I mean I kind of I kind of fell into beauty. I actually I minored in fashion merchandising so I was I thought you know I would be a buyer or something like that and in my mind you know buyers for department store sat in all the front rows at fashion shows right right that's not that's not the case actually.

And I was working towards that and actually fell into makeup artistry.

And I had been exposed before in college and everything through theater and through actually drag queens and all of that, but I fell into the beauty industry and worked in sales and then the first makeup brand I actually worked for way back when in like I think 2001 was Laura Mercier.

And I know.

So it was really, that's where I honed my skills and I learned how to do eyeliner and

concealer and all of that.

And then moved on to Los Angeles and did TV and film,

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