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Good morning, everyone. I'm playbook co-author Eugene Daniels. It is Thursday, January 9th,

and there's only one story driving the day in Washington, the Memorial Service in National

Day of Morning for former President Jimmy Carter. This morning, his lying in state will end at 7 a.m.

A departure ceremony will take place from the U.S. Capitol around 9, where the motorcade

will leave for the Washington National Cathedral around 915.

The National Funeral Service begins at 10 a.m.

For this historic occasion, we have a bit of a different show for you today.

Joining me now to chat about former President Carter's life and legacy is the Atlanta Journal

Constitution's Washington Bureau Chief, Tia Mitchell.

Good morning, Tia, and you're our first kind of non-political person to come on the

podcast. Usually it's my colleague. So thank you for this very special, special occasion.

Well, thank you, Eugene. I'm so honored. You and your team have been, you know, covering the

ins and outs of Carter forever. But definitely as people have been looking at his legacy

after he died and him being having his funeral here in D.C. today. One thing that's kind of

really struck me in recent days is this idea that it could be the last time we see a, I don't know,

a nonpartisan display of grief toward a former president, right?

You saw Democrats and Republicans saying really beautiful things about Jimmy Carter, his legacy,

what he means, even if they disagreed with his politics. He was of the time when that was how it worked. Is that striking you as well that, you know, it would be hard to see, you know, Democrats saying something nice about George W. Bush or Republicans saying something nice about Bill Clinton, for example.

I don't know. I think that time helps to ease some of the partisan ways we reflect on former

presidents. So I think, you know, look at a George W. Bush. And it seems like, for example,

his relationship with the Obama's has strengthened and

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