you can play with a future scenario and it can change your behavior today

and in ways that support your health and happiness.

And so it's like this weird, you know, we're thinking about the future,

we're changing our behavior today and it's like it's almost like the time space

continuum is collapsing a little bit in our minds.

Hello and welcome to the Psychology podcast.

Today we welcome Jane McGonagall.

Jane is a world-renowned game designer who challenges players to tackle real-world

problems such as poverty, depression, and climate change through collaboration.

Jane is also a future forecaster serving as the current director of games research

and development at the Institute for the Future.

Her games and forecasting work has been featured in the New York Times,

Wired, the Economist, CNN, NPR, and more.

As a two-time New York Times bestselling author,

she has recently published her third book called Imaginable.

In this episode, I talked to Jane about the intersection of gaming and future forecasting.

Jane asserts that games are not just for escapeous entertainment.

They can also be used to help prepare us for what's to come.

Imagining fictional simulations can inspire us to make present changes

which can influence our personal and collective futures for the better.

We also touch on the topics of creativity, psychotherapy, forecasting, hope, and tech.

It's with my great delight to now bring you Jane McConaugal.

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