Hi everyone, as promised, you guys are getting an extra bonus episode of me and Jamila Reddy's conversation around greeting grief at the door.

It was a chat we initially had on Instagram that we took to Zoom and now it is here for you all to enjoy.

Also just a heads up on a little reminder that the registration for my next course

a journey home closes on the 15th so just in a couple days and we start

the course together on Sunday and I am so so so excited I hope to see you all there. The community is growing and it is beautiful and I'm so grateful for you all support during this time.

Okay, enjoy this convo with me and Jamila. Take care.

Back at it again.

Back at it again off of our live. I definitely wanted to have something for the people that we could save and reflect

back on. I think a lot of folks really enjoyed our podcast episode together and they had their

journals out and they were ready to chit chat and all of that so I would love to just kind of

backtrack a little bit and talk about healing coming in waves. My children are upstairs.

Slowing down our desire to want to rush into our healing and also giving ourselves grace to really grow through it and try to find not the out but really the end of everything that we're working through in our own lives and now with this pandemic as well and added pressure of fear and anxiety.

For sure. I think, yeah, I keep returning to this idea that it's okay not to be okay and even every time I say that

Immediately, there's an inner voice that's like no, no, it's not like you need to get out of that

immediately or there's the fear voice of like oh I say that it's okay to be not

okay am I encouraging somebody to abandon self-care and I feel like my understanding of that

sentiment is that it's normal and natural and equality of the human

experience to have a multitude of emotions and to move through different feelings at all times and so feeling sadness or anxiety I don't have to problematize it I don't have to create a narrative about the feeling. I can just simply feel it.

And then being willing to sit with the discomfort of whatever the feeling is.

And I think that's where the rushing comes from. It's like, I don't want to feel this anymore. I want to feel better now. And so just trusting that the feeling is going to come and go and that I don't have to move myself.

I don't have to run towards feeling good that I can just sit with whatever I feel and trust that

it's going to move. When I think about grief I always think about grief as like a

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