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Wicked Words - A True Crime Talk Show with Kate Winkler Dawson

James Polchin: Shadow Men

Wicked Words - A True Crime Talk Show with Kate Winkler Dawson

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True Crime

4.8 • 7.1K Ratings

🗓️ 8 September 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Our story this week is set in the 1920s in Westchester County, New York…it’s a Jazz Age mystery. A young ex-sailor is found dead on a desolate road. A suspect from a wealthy family admits to the murder, but he claims that he was trying to protect a dangerous secret. Author James Polchin’s book, Shadow Men unravels a mystery more than a century old. 

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0:00.0

This is exactly right.

0:06.2

This story contains adult content and language.

0:09.7

Listener discretion is advised.

0:18.6

He would have his own personal bootleger come with large trunks of gin.

0:23.6

Ward told the doorman of the building,

0:27.6

anytime this guy comes by with his trunk, just let him in.

0:31.6

I'm Kate Winkler Dawson, a nonfiction author and journalism professor in Austin, Texas.

0:42.5

I'm also the co-hosts of the podcast Buried Bones on Exactly Right.

0:46.5

And throughout my career, research for my many audio and book projects has taken me around the world.

0:53.5

On Wicked Words, I sit down with the people I've met along the way,

0:57.3

amazing writers, journalists, filmmakers, and podcasters

1:00.9

who have investigated and reported on notorious true crime cases.

1:05.6

This is about the choices writers make, both good and bad,

1:09.6

and it's a deep dive into the unpublished details behind their

1:13.2

stories. Our story this week is set in the 1920s in Westchester County, New York. It's a jazz age

1:21.7

mystery. A young ex-sailer is found dead on a desolate road, a suspect from a wealthy family admits to the murder, but he claims that he was trying

1:30.5

to protect a dangerous secret.

1:32.8

Author James Polchon's book, Shadowman, unravels a mystery more than a century old.

1:41.1

Well, let's go ahead and get into this case.

1:43.8

You know, you open the book with a discovery.

1:48.1

Why open it with such a, I feel, a grand opening when people love to sprinkle breadcrumbs everywhere and then really reveal the victim?

1:58.4

Yeah, I thought a lot about how to tell this story. That to me is fascinating.

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