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Welcome to the Eric Mataxis show with your host, Eric Mataxis.

Uh oh, Albin, it's Monday.

It is Monday.

Ladies and gentlemen, I apologize in advance for what we're going to do this week.

We've got a lot of stuff to cover. First of all, first things first,

my guest for both hours today is an old friend. I cannot believe, I don't think I have hung out

with him for 30 years. It doesn't make sense, but it's true. His name is Jim Conzler.

Um, I, well, we've got a, we've got one big announcement, but before I get to that, I want to say Jim

Conzler, I don't want to brag about him when he's on the air with me because I don't want to embarrass him.

Yeah.

But he is an amazing writer. His books are brilliantly written and hilarious, even when he's writing about

serious stuff. So he wrote a book called The Geography of Know Where that is about kind of what

happened to America and how highways and, you know, six lane highways have just kind of taken

over everything. But it's, it's so brilliant that it changed the way I see things and I,

and I read it back and gosh, this was in the 90s. So I want to talk to him about that, but he's

somebody too that he came from a kind of like a liberal secular, you know, democratic point of view.

And I think he has migrated more to where I am. So I'm fascinated with that. I don't know if I'm

going to get into that, but he's just a big deal. And so I am thrilled that I get to talk to him

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