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The Beat with Ari Melber

James Comey Warns Against Folding to Trump Intimidation

The Beat with Ari Melber

MSNBC

Government, Daily News, Politics, News

4.64.1K Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

MSNBC's Ari Melber hosts "The Beat" on Monday, May 19, and reports on President Trump's free speech crackdown with James Comey, Trump's flip-flop on tariffs and House Republicans' effort to gut healthcare for millions of Americans. Dr. David Kessler, Maya Wiley and David Ziblatt join.

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0:00.0

we begin with that Trump crackdown on free speech. Really no other way to see it. James Comey's

0:06.8

interview with Nicole Wallace, which we were just discussing and of course wrapped up just about half an

0:11.9

hour ago lays out how he says the Trump administration is trying to scrutinize what is protected

0:19.3

speech or in Comey's case and we're going to show you

0:21.8

exactly what he said, speech that in no way had anything to do with, he says, any violent or

0:26.8

illegal intent. And yet the FBI director, who served until Trump fired him, is now being questioned

0:33.1

by the Secret Service. Comey recounting two investigative interviews. He's done with the Secret Service.

0:38.6

He called them professional, but he also completely opposes and debunks what is the reason

0:44.6

predicate for this current probe, the claim that his post of a photograph of seashells,

0:50.5

spelling out 8647, could be logically construed as a call to violence.

0:57.8

I thought, what a clever way to express a political view. The shells were the same color for each

1:04.5

of the letters, so different colors for the letters. It took a lot of work. Somebody with artistic

1:08.8

flair did that, and I have a hard time believing it was anybody with a dark intention,

1:15.8

and it certainly was no dark intention on my part, on my spouse's part.

1:21.5

Comey speaking carefully about that exact matter, and he is, of course, not only the former FBI director,

1:27.3

he was a longtime lawyer and prosecutor himself, of course, not only the former FBI director, he was a long-time

1:27.8

lawyer and prosecutor himself. So he understands that when you're in this situation, you do have to

1:32.9

address the claim, however thin the facts may be. He also noted that 86 is fairly old slang that

1:40.4

usually refers to removing an item or a shop being sold out of it. President Trump has not

1:45.7

hid his desire to target many perceived opponents with a range of so-called investigations or threatening

1:51.9

arrests or even indictment and jail. And the evidence here is that this is an effort to crack down

1:57.7

on free speech rather than, say, a freewheeling law enforcement effort

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