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🗓️ 8 April 2021
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0:00.0 | Hi, welcome back to Conversations. I'm Bill Crystal. Very pleased to be joined today by James Carville, |
0:20.7 | who I've known for quite a while, who first met I think in 1991-1992 when he |
0:25.6 | clobbered us, helping to run, really running the Bill Clinton campaign, and I was there in the |
0:29.9 | George H. W. Bush White House in reelection efforts, but we've debated many times. We've |
0:35.3 | been on the same side more recently. But most importantly, for this purpose, I think, James is one of |
0:40.0 | the most astute analysts, not just practitioners, not just partisans, but analysts of American politics. |
0:47.0 | And I really want to get his thoughts as we speak in what early April 2021 on, where we stand, |
0:52.4 | where we're at the Biden administration, the Democratic Party, what are the prospects for the next |
0:57.4 | short term, but also a medium term for the Democratic Party, but also democracy in America, |
1:02.3 | and so forth. So, James, thanks for being with me. Good, good. So, where are we? What's |
1:07.1 | are you? You know, you were very strongly engaged in the fight against Donald Trump. But then |
1:13.2 | a little disappointed, maybe, by I'm happy that Biden won, worried about the closeness of the election |
1:17.9 | and the down ballot stuff, but just, where does the Democratic Party stand? You've been involved |
1:22.2 | in it for a long time. Well, first of all, you know, we won the presidency in 2020, in November |
1:30.1 | 2020 and so a little bit, but other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? Well, it really |
1:35.0 | wasn't very good after the fact that we won. I mean, I think you'd have to call |
1:40.9 | heavy, when the presidency, you can say, we're here to kind of disappoint in here, but it's actually |
1:46.0 | that's really what happened. And Trump came to send what 42,000 votes and forced them to put a |
1:53.1 | portion differently in four states. So, I was pretty gloomy, and then January the 5th came, |
2:00.7 | and lo and behold, Democrats took up two seats in Georgia, which completely, you know, |
2:07.7 | two seats heard around the world, something significant, probably off the election. |
2:13.4 | I've got an off the election. It was not, you know, different date. And so you had that, |
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