James Carville on Biden v. Trump

Conversations with Bill Kristol

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🗓️ 30 May 2024

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Where do things stand in the race as we head into the summer? According to veteran Democratic strategist James Carville: “It’s clearly very close. There clearly can be events that can impact the outcome. But we’re headed to an election that not many people are very excited about.” Carville argues that the Biden campaign needs a message on the economy that is forward-looking, and suggests it isn’t enough for the president to frame the election as a referendum on Trump. Carville considers how abortion and unpopularity of the MAGA movement are potentially winning issues that the Biden campaign might use more effectively. But he notes the Trump operation has been more disciplined than in 2016 or in 2020, and reflects on the limitations to date of Biden’s campaign as incumbent. Kristol and Carville also consider how the outcome of Trump’s New York trial, a debate in June (if it happens!), the conventions, and other upcoming events could shape the race.

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0:00.0	And the Hi, I'm Bill Crystal. Welcome back to conversations. I'm very pleased to be
0:18.8	joined again by James Carville. We last spoke in September.
0:23.4	James was worried about the Biden campaign,
0:25.6	give some useful advice, I think.
0:28.0	If we can talk about where he thinks things
0:31.0	where he thinks things stand now.
0:33.0	I won't even bother with the introduction of James,
0:35.0	he needs none.
0:36.0	So, James, thanks for joining me.
0:37.0	Well, thank you, Bill.
0:38.0	Always the pleasure, but I wish we were under happier
0:42.0	circumstances, but it was.
0:44.0	Let's make them happier.
0:45.2	We can do it here.
0:46.2	Tell what, what, where are we in the campaign and the presidential campaign?
0:49.9	We're discussing what is it May 29th just after Memorial Day?
0:52.4	That's a traditional kind of
0:53.6	break point right where everyone says okay where are we on Royal Day where are we
0:57.8	and then let's get to what should be done well you know first of all just if you
1:02.4	look at the overall thing, people feel like the country's going in the round direction.
1:06.9	The combined number of people that would rather have another choice is as high as I can never remember it.
1:13.7	The third party vote at this time
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