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This is Design Matters with

This is Design Matters with Debbie Milman from Design Observer.com.

On this program, Debbie Millman talks with architect Jim Beber

about designing the Harley Davidson Museum and the Museum of Sex and

about why it's always eye-popping to visit buildings and not just look at

architectural models and pictures. There's always something that's completely unexpected and it's like you know the

different between pornography and sex. You know it's like you know it's one thing to

read about it and it's entirely different to participate.

Here's Debbie Milman.

If architecture is like frozen music,

what does the headquarters for Musak look like?

Jim Bieber can answer that question.

He's the architect who designed the building in Fort Mill, South Carolina.

But lest you think Beber is the architectural equivalent of Musac. Think again.

Beber also designed, you guessed it,

the Harley Davidson Museum in Milwaukee.

He's here with us today to talk about that

project and many other design challenges from his three decades of

architectural innovation. Welcome to Design Matters, Jim. Thanks, Debbie.

So I realized in my research on you over the last couple of weeks that you seem to have an unusual

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