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Guaranteed Human.

The Around the NFL podcast.

Alternates between being the Big Spoon and the Little Spoon.

From the Chris Wessling podcast studio, it's Around the NFL.

Dan Hans is here.

Heroes with me, Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal.

Colleen Wolf.

Ah, woo.

And it is, we touched on it maybe a little bit on the Sunday night show, but how about that?

Kavon, Tibido, one of the most iconic, infamous guests in the history of the show, having a superstar moment.

That is just that adds more juice to the squeeze, Mark, from our interview years ago, or months ago, I should say. Yeah, it feels like yesterday. Yeah. The interview felt like it went on for years actually. Yes. Yeah. And we did. We asked him if he surmised after having spent an off season, you know, he's a very new to the NFL with coach Brian Dable, who was new to the Giants, whether he thought that Brian Dable would operate typically, characteristically as a big spoon or a little spoon, and he refused to go down that avenue. He was offended by the questioning. That wasn't the only thing that rubbed him the wrong way, and I was pulled aside by a high up booker in the company. It's like, hey, man, what happened with that interview? Wait, really? Oh, yeah. That's amazing. And this is after two great interviews where I really established, like, a great rapport between Kvon and the group. Got them in the flow of things. But they say they're going to wait until I go to Japan again.

Greg kind of lives in his own reality sometimes. I think Kva went out of his way. We were having fun. To kind of let you know that he wasn't your friend, as I recall. Right now we're acquaintances. He said we were acquaintances. You know, it's weird. I talked to him at the Super Bowl. Once I leave this, you guys are going to feel like you know me.

And it's not because I want to be you guys as friends, but it's weird. I talk to him at the Super Bowl. Once I leave this, you guys are going to feel like you know me.

And it's not because I want to be you guys as friends, but it's because I'm authentic. But you do want to be our friends, right? I don't. I don't. I don't. He had so much personality when I talked to him last February. I don't know what happened with you guys. And he had a lot of personality Sunday night during his post game pressers.

He was dropping jemmy.

He's like Muhammad Ali on the mic. talk to him last February. I don't know what happened with you guys. And he had a lot of personality Sunday night during his post-game pressers.

He was dropping jemmy.

He's like Muhammad Ali on the mic, this guy. So if you combine that level of play in New York with that charisma.

Can it take you places?

It will.

What a combo.

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