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I'm Alan Alda, and this is Clear In Vivid, conversations about connecting and communicating.

How do you handle somebody who clearly doesn't want to answer your question?

You can answer the same question once or twice more.

Do you have a limit?

Well, I'm just not going to go past three times because it's getting as nowhere.

Or do you do bold facetly call them out?

That's me interviewing CNN's Jake Tapper about the art of interviewing.

But this episode of Clear In Vivid has a twist.

What do you remember? Like what is the most vivid memory you have of making mash?

And I realize it's an 11 year experience with lots of different people.

But do you have like one vivid memory or a few vivid memories?

That's right. In this episode, Jake spends as much time turning his interviewing skills on me as I spend interviewing him.

As you'll hear, we both had a lot of fun.

And we got some revealing answers.

Jake, I'm so glad to be talking with you today.

This is really a treat. I think it'd be a good idea to explain to the audience how this happened.

We were talking about your being on the show, and you suggested interviewing me.

And my reaction was full of blameless modesty.

Oh, I don't want to be interviewed on my own show.

And then I thought, wait a minute.

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