Hello and welcome to the Bullard Podcast I'm your host Tim Miller I'm delighted to be here with Jake Tapper who I don't get to see anymore since I'm on the other network

He's a CNN anchor author of four books as most recent all the demons are here

He's also hosting and executive producing and all the things a new original series called United States of scandal which wraps this Sunday

Jake. What's happening brother? Hey Tim, how are you, man?

I'm doing quite well.

You know, I want to talk about the series.

I'm curious, to me, you know, maybe I'm putting you on the couch here

for a second, but as I was watching some of the

apps I was like you know maybe this is just a newsman who is nostalgic for the days

when journalists could shame politicians who were acting bad. What was the motivation?

No, the motivation was just storytelling and curiosity. I like your theory. I like your

theory. I mean one of my big first moments in journalism was when I wrote a story for the

Washington City paper in 1998 right when the Clinton Lewinsky scandal

broke and it was a story about I had gone on a platonic date with her.

It was basically a rumination on American scandal,

political scandal, and why everybody seemed so excited

when this young woman I kind of knew was getting destroyed.

So it's possible that the origins of my interest in scandal

and the real story and the wreckage left behind

is rooted there.

But the truth is it was just, as far as I can tell, it was just really. rooted it Why is there not a series on American scandals?

I would watch that.

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